0 1 00:00:00,780 --> 00:00:07,140 Okay. So what do you do once you've created the landing page and you've demonstrated that people are interested 1 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:07,930 in it? 2 3 00:00:07,950 --> 00:00:12,890 Do you go ahead and pour in you know 30 grand 40 grand to build the app? 3 4 00:00:12,900 --> 00:00:18,590 Or do you, you know, go ahead and spend six months or a year of your time and build a full blown version straight 4 5 00:00:18,590 --> 00:00:19,250 away? 5 6 00:00:19,260 --> 00:00:20,030 Probably not. 6 7 00:00:20,140 --> 00:00:24,930 So the next step after you've demonstrated interest in your product is actually building what's called 7 8 00:00:24,930 --> 00:00:26,420 a minimum viable product. 8 9 00:00:26,460 --> 00:00:32,880 And this comes from you know the lean startup kind of methodology where you really don't assume anything 9 10 00:00:32,910 --> 00:00:39,120 about your users or about your buyers and let them guide you in your development cycles. 10 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:45,360 So I'm going to bring back this example of Great little Place which is an app that allows you to discover 11 12 00:00:45,780 --> 00:00:48,180 essentially cool things to do in London. 12 13 00:00:48,180 --> 00:00:52,180 And it's I think it's user submitted with a little bit of curation as well. 13 14 00:00:52,470 --> 00:00:57,600 And the reason I want to talk about it is because we saw earlier on how they collected emails through 14 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:03,280 their landing page and gathered interest in this app but they didn't go straight away 15 16 00:01:03,300 --> 00:01:10,260 jumping into building the app. Instead what they did was spent you know five 10 minutes maybe building 16 17 00:01:10,290 --> 00:01:12,210 a Facebook page. 17 18 00:01:12,690 --> 00:01:17,940 And what they did was they use this to validate the concept even further. 18 19 00:01:17,940 --> 00:01:24,810 So by having a page called "I know this great little place in London..." they publish posts on discoveries 19 20 00:01:24,810 --> 00:01:31,620 or places, let other people of the community join and publish their own little tidbits of local knowledge 20 21 00:01:32,100 --> 00:01:35,690 and they can look at how many people are interested in this. 21 22 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:38,060 How many people are reacting to the post, 22 23 00:01:38,190 --> 00:01:44,460 how many people are liking the page, following the page and really being able to build a community around 23 24 00:01:44,460 --> 00:01:51,840 this concept, being able to demonstrate that it works that people are interested in discovering these 24 25 00:01:51,930 --> 00:01:54,230 little bits of no local knowledge. 25 26 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:59,190 It's very easy sometimes as a founder to get really carried away with your idea and believe that the 26 27 00:01:59,190 --> 00:02:04,880 whole world needs it and it's obviously going to be a huge hit before you've demonstrated any of this. 27 28 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:10,650 Instead, the sort of more careful way of demonstrating interest by looking at sign ups, gathering those 28 29 00:02:10,650 --> 00:02:18,720 sign ups those emails for later use and building a MVP or minimal viable product just to test out if 29 30 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:19,780 the concept works 30 31 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:25,410 and if people would actually use in real life. And sometimes you can see that people guide your product 31 32 00:02:25,410 --> 00:02:29,850 development. For example on the Facebook page you've got people saying "Do you have an Apple app or do 32 33 00:02:29,850 --> 00:02:30,860 you have an Android app?" 33 34 00:02:30,900 --> 00:02:35,610 And by looking at how many people make these kind of requests, you can see how much interest there is 34 35 00:02:35,610 --> 00:02:39,390 because they actually you know gone off their own back to write this. 35 36 00:02:39,390 --> 00:02:41,620 So they're clearly interested in something like that 36 37 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:48,840 if it were available. Now your MVP will differ depending on what kind of product you have. 37 38 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:55,410 So usually for a lot of these kind of services or data orientated kind of products, Facebook page 38 39 00:02:55,470 --> 00:02:58,340 is actually a really really easy way of doing your 39 40 00:02:58,340 --> 00:03:05,160 MVP. Now this is another company called the Jamie app which the concept is very simple. It allows you to 40 41 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:11,010 meet other professional in the sort of startup adjacent world. 41 42 00:03:11,010 --> 00:03:17,520 They could be designers, product managers, certainly interesting people. And the company sets you up with 42 43 00:03:17,610 --> 00:03:24,270 a 30 minute meeting every Friday morning and even though they're called the Jamie app, they actually 43 44 00:03:24,270 --> 00:03:25,650 don't have an app. 44 45 00:03:25,650 --> 00:03:27,510 Instead what they have is an MVP. 45 46 00:03:27,660 --> 00:03:32,490 So the beginning of every week, the app will send you an email asking for your availability on Friday 46 47 00:03:32,490 --> 00:03:35,370 at 10AM and you can say yes or no. 47 48 00:03:35,490 --> 00:03:39,990 And if you say yes, they'll set you up with a random person to me and you say no 48 49 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:42,500 then they leave you alone for the week until next week. 49 50 00:03:42,510 --> 00:03:50,340 It's basically an interesting person that they found for you and allows you to really settle on a date 50 51 00:03:50,370 --> 00:03:55,110 and time that you're both available and then essentially meet up and meet this random person. 51 52 00:03:55,170 --> 00:04:01,170 So instead of jumping down the route of building a really complex app or you know putting in a whole 52 53 00:04:01,170 --> 00:04:05,270 bunch of features, this is actually the core of the product. 53 54 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:11,790 It's just about setting up random people to meet once a week. And doing this via just sending emails 54 55 00:04:12,150 --> 00:04:16,640 means that there's no infrastructure, there's no investment. You don't have to build anything. 55 56 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,810 It's just a MVP. 56 57 00:04:17,830 --> 00:04:23,220 And by doing this they've actually gathered you know tens of thousands of users and they've demonstrated 57 58 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,770 a real need in this kind of product. 58 59 00:04:25,770 --> 00:04:30,930 So the next step of their product development cycle I presume is actually getting a bit of funding and 59 60 00:04:30,930 --> 00:04:36,660 being able to demonstrate that traction using your MVP. Being able to show look at how many weekly users 60 61 00:04:36,660 --> 00:04:39,180 we have and how many people we've set up already, 61 62 00:04:39,210 --> 00:04:41,390 this is clearly a need that people have 62 63 00:04:41,430 --> 00:04:47,130 you're far more likely to get the interest of VCs or angels and people who can help you build this into 63 64 00:04:47,130 --> 00:04:49,170 a real fully fledged product. 64 65 00:04:49,170 --> 00:04:56,820 So before you really jump the gun and you know build the product of your dreams, think about what it 65 66 00:04:56,820 --> 00:05:03,330 is that other people want and try to build a core version, a stripped down version of your idea so that 66 67 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,140 it really is just one concept. 67 68 00:05:06,140 --> 00:05:12,480 Very often when we do these large talks and when we do some of the larger courses you hear lot of people 68 69 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,580 saying you know "I have an idea that's basically like Facebook meets laptop meets Twitter and I want 69 70 00:05:17,580 --> 00:05:20,780 to launch it in like a week and it's going to be a huge success." 70 71 00:05:20,790 --> 00:05:24,420 Well that will take quite a lot of building time to make 71 72 00:05:24,450 --> 00:05:24,750 right? 72 73 00:05:24,750 --> 00:05:27,010 Why not test your idea first? 73 74 00:05:27,060 --> 00:05:34,050 See if people actually want it. Build a you know really really stripped down version and then see how 74 75 00:05:34,050 --> 00:05:39,600 it goes. See what other features people want instead of presuming them because no matter how hard you 75 76 00:05:39,610 --> 00:05:42,350 try, you can't know what the-- 76 77 00:05:42,750 --> 00:05:48,190 You can't really know what the hive mind wants or what it is that you know will be a success. 77 78 00:05:48,210 --> 00:05:49,620 So build an MVP. 78 79 00:05:49,620 --> 00:05:56,520 Think about having a product where have all the features that you possibly want and take out one feature 79 80 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,600 at a time and keep asking people you know, would you still use this? Would you still use this? Would you 80 81 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,110 still buy this? Would you still buy this? 81 82 00:06:02,340 --> 00:06:08,370 Until you get to the point where you have barely anything in this product and people are still willing 82 83 00:06:08,370 --> 00:06:14,260 to use it or buy it. That is your core product, that is your core concept and build an MVP around that 83 84 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:17,520 and then test out and see how people respond to it. 84 85 00:06:17,550 --> 00:06:21,560 Look at your growth, look at your traction, look at how many more sign ups you're getting every week, 85 86 00:06:21,570 --> 00:06:26,490 look at how often people are engaging with your product whether it's on Facebook whether it's through 86 87 00:06:26,500 --> 00:06:28,020 email. Doesn't really matter 87 88 00:06:28,020 --> 00:06:29,730 just keep it really really simple. 88 89 00:06:29,730 --> 00:06:31,840 Now this is a really good story. 89 90 00:06:31,860 --> 00:06:38,040 There's a company called Gimlet that essentially makes these really great podcasts about startups about 90 91 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,060 the tech community etc. and have a whole bunch of really really good episodes. 91 92 00:06:42,060 --> 00:06:50,400 One that I would highly recommend is a is a hour long interview with some of the previous employees 92 93 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,120 of Grooveshark which was this music streaming service. 93 94 00:06:54,390 --> 00:06:59,700 And it's kind of a really sad story about how Grooveshark was run and how it eventually died. But the 94 95 00:06:59,700 --> 00:07:06,160 sort of you know de-brief and analysis is really really interesting and I'll link it in the video below. 95 96 00:07:06,180 --> 00:07:10,740 But another thing I'm going to link is on their episode where they built a minimum viable product which 96 97 00:07:10,740 --> 00:07:15,570 is just a I think it was like a five minute video showing a prototype. 97 98 00:07:15,570 --> 00:07:21,190 So it's not a real app, like you can't download it. It's just a bunch of images that's narrated with a voice. 98 99 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:26,430 And they showed this video to a bunch of listeners of their podcasts to see how many people would want 99 100 00:07:26,430 --> 00:07:33,210 these features, which features they wanted, and they had this Google form at the end surveying essentially 100 101 00:07:33,660 --> 00:07:35,460 what do you think is good, 101 102 00:07:35,460 --> 00:07:36,680 what kind of features do you want 102 103 00:07:36,690 --> 00:07:40,040 in this app, is an app even necessary? 103 104 00:07:40,110 --> 00:07:43,050 That's always a question you should actually ask yourself before you build any app. 104 105 00:07:43,050 --> 00:07:44,480 Should I be making an app? 105 106 00:07:44,490 --> 00:07:46,750 Can it be a website? Can it be simpler? 106 107 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:52,140 But essentially they used the survey to gather feedback on their minimum viable product. And it's a really 107 108 00:07:52,140 --> 00:07:55,780 good story or description on how the whole process works. 108 109 00:07:55,830 --> 00:07:58,350 And I would highly recommend if you have a few minutes to spare 109 110 00:07:58,350 --> 00:07:59,590 have a listen to that.